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	<title>Comments on: { Why Email Marketing Websites Fail at List Management &#8211; and what to do about it. }</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Lancaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Thanks for commenting Annie. I hope everyone gets to read your article “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://swiftpage.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/excel-the-ultimate-email-list-manager/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Excel- The Ultimate Email List Manager&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;”. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://swiftpage.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Swiftpage&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt; looks like a great way to keep in contact with your customers and build email campaigns. Your “Drip Marketing” looks very interesting too.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I think your Excel blog was right on track:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;“For every campaign you send, survey results you receive, and every single call list you make, you can simply put each set of contacts and results into their own unique spreadsheet. This makes archiving and tracking down specific groups of people, just about as easy as it gets. Essentially creating your own intertwined library of what contacts go with which campaigns and which survey results.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;You have described the problem well, but I think if you take a close look at calc{list} you will see it virtually obsoletes Excel as an option. In fact Excel’s purpose is doing &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: underline;&quot;&gt;“What if?” calculations for numbers&lt;/span&gt; which has little to do with lists of contact; but calc{list} was actually designed for managing lists of contacts and lets you calculate and do &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: underline;&quot;&gt;“What if?” with contacts&lt;/span&gt;! I like to say it lets you do “What Who?”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I think calc{list} would be huge step forward for Swiftpage’s Excel bound customers. Take a close look. There is nothing else like it...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Thanks for commenting Annie. I hope everyone gets to read your article “</span><a href="http://swiftpage.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/excel-the-ultimate-email-list-manager/" rel="nofollow"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Excel- The Ultimate Email List Manager</span></a><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">”. </span><a href="http://swiftpage.com/" rel="nofollow"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Swiftpage</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> looks like a great way to keep in contact with your customers and build email campaigns. Your “Drip Marketing” looks very interesting too.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">I think your Excel blog was right on track:</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">“For every campaign you send, survey results you receive, and every single call list you make, you can simply put each set of contacts and results into their own unique spreadsheet. This makes archiving and tracking down specific groups of people, just about as easy as it gets. Essentially creating your own intertwined library of what contacts go with which campaigns and which survey results.”</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">You have described the problem well, but I think if you take a close look at calc{list} you will see it virtually obsoletes Excel as an option. In fact Excel’s purpose is doing <span style="text-decoration: underline;">“What if?” calculations for numbers</span> which has little to do with lists of contact; but calc{list} was actually designed for managing lists of contacts and lets you calculate and do <span style="text-decoration: underline;">“What if?” with contacts</span>! I like to say it lets you do “What Who?”.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">I think calc{list} would be huge step forward for Swiftpage’s Excel bound customers. Take a close look. There is nothing else like it&#8230;</span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Annie Cooley</title>
		<link>http://listupthepeople.calclist.com/2009/10/why-email-marketing-websites-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Cooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it is essential in offering a contact list management tool to make it possible to easily compare and combine contact lists. I recently wrote a blog on how to better use excel as a list manager in effective way - swiftpage.wordpress.com. Swiftpage, another email marketing company, has utilized contact managers such as Excel, Outlook, ACT! by Sage, Sage CRM and Salelogix to better organize and deliver information to contacts. The drip marketing and Marketing Results tools allow the lists to be divided and combined as the target audience changes and reacts to the content sent via email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it is essential in offering a contact list management tool to make it possible to easily compare and combine contact lists. I recently wrote a blog on how to better use excel as a list manager in effective way &#8211; swiftpage.wordpress.com. Swiftpage, another email marketing company, has utilized contact managers such as Excel, Outlook, ACT! by Sage, Sage CRM and Salelogix to better organize and deliver information to contacts. The drip marketing and Marketing Results tools allow the lists to be divided and combined as the target audience changes and reacts to the content sent via email.</p>
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